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At ERF 2024 a record number of robot companies presented their solutions at the 2,000 m2 exhibition area. Among them two innovative Dutch companies, both spin-offs of technical universities. Avular, originating from Eindhoven technical university, presented its open mobile robot and drone technology. IM Systems, originating from Technical University Delft, showed their Archimedes speed drive. In this report the Rocking Robots team interviews Tess Kolkman of Avular, and Casper van Eersel of IM Systems.